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BladeVFR
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Post Re: BMW Garmisch
on: February 27, 2013, 15:14
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I am available any time up to the event but, as previously stated, not after.

Also, if we were to take another day getting down there it might be a good excuse to do the B500 throught the Black Forest! 😎

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Post Re: BMW Garmisch
on: February 28, 2013, 20:05
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As discussed on the phone, I am up for the trip, and am available, at the start of July. No mega mileage and a relaxed approach suits me fine. Beds are a must, as camping, is just not me. About a week travelling is fine.
As soon as we are in a position to book ( when we know how many are tagging along ) I will pay immediately.
Might I suggest a cut off date, so we can meet and finalise ?

cookysbmw
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Post Re: BMW Garmisch
on: March 1, 2013, 12:22
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I can easily do 4-8th inclusive, and could add days on either end but need to know. Who wants to go and what are the dates you have in mind?

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Post Re: BMW Garmisch
on: March 1, 2013, 16:51
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Well I want to go and am happy to book ferry/hotels now (or pay whoever does book them).

I was thinking leave tea time 3 July - get to Harwich for overnight ferry to Hook. Day riding down to Baden Baden, then on B500 to Garmisch. Couple of days based there at either party or days riding (maybe take in Grossglockner) - then home via Stelvio etc etc - aim to be home on 10th maybe.

Just my thoughts but am more than happy to go with other ideas.

cookysbmw
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Post Re: BMW Garmisch
on: March 2, 2013, 18:59
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The ferry to holland on Stenna are 9-16.45 or 23.15-06.30, circa £90 plus cabin say £50. 560 miles plus the bit to Harwich. Assuming return from the Stelvio area then 666 back, so 11 hours riding there and 13 hours back, plus stops for lunch etc?

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Post Re: BMW Garmisch
on: March 3, 2013, 09:53
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Norwich - Harwich 73 miles (3 July) Overnight on ferry. Hook to Baden Baden 377miles (4 July). Baden Baden to Garmisch (via B500 and Lake Constance - non motorway) 244 miles (5 July). 6th & 7th July either at BMW party or take a ride out to maybe Grossglockner (probably round trip of 300 miles). 8 July ride to Bormio (taking in Stelvio pass) 187 miles. Bormio to Norwich 820 miles (so start journey homewards doing 400 on 9th and the last 400 miles on 10th).

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Norwich to Dover 178 miles - Calais to Baden Baden 408 miles. Maybe even up the days riding and stay in hotel 100 miles into France somewhere - rest as above.............

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bring the whole thing forward a few days and do Stelvio before Garmisch, then stay at BMW party then head straight home after for people going to Cadwell

Simples.

Again just my thoughts - happy to read others. (getting alot of my routes from Fast Bikes magazine - what I'm suggesting here seems a very popular bikers holiday/trip. Out of top 10 biking destinations Stelvio (every bikers dream apparently) is the must do followed by B500 from Baden Baden, San Bernadino pass and Grossnockner)

I'm going to do it and would welcome some company.

cookysbmw
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Post Re: BMW Garmisch
on: March 4, 2013, 15:01
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Peter has a route vis Calais, Rheims, Baden-Baden, Wadshut, Garmisch vis Tengen and Lake Constance 923 miles over 3 days. My preference is to travel the shortest time by boat if I am honest. I have not done the B500. The Grossglockner is a 23 euro toll road that you can ride back and forth, there are restaurants etc and you can easily spend half a day there, I have the tee shirt quite literally, as lots of touristy stuff to buy, the Stelvio is very twisty with some 60 acute hairpins and you can spend a half day there as well, it is an exercise in concentration though! Happy to do both again. There are a multitude of passes but we only have a certain amount of time so it is best to plan them in advance otherwise you can spend half a day just getting there. The BMW event gives a couple of days mostly off the bike (we still have to get there from a hotel etc), which will probably be welcome after 3 days riding.

BladeVFR
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Post Re: BMW Garmisch
on: March 4, 2013, 17:53
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The route I 'sketched' and gave to Cooky was on the same lines as XTourer's suggestions i.e. something for discussion.
However, I hope I made it clear that my having to come back immediately after the BMW do should not influence what you guys want to do. I'm happy to 'trosh' back on my own. My main consideration has to be, as Cadwell is booked and paid for and inextricably linked with 7 other riders, getting back to the Black Horse near Cadwell no later than Tuesday evening and in a fit state to ride Cadwell the next day. This means that unfortunately I am not up for any additional riding, other than the B500 which is on the way, before the BMW days as I feel it will just be too much for me. If the 3 of you have a strong desire to do some passes, and it would be a shame not to as you're there already, then please dont let me interfere in that planning. I can always go another year when there isn't a clash of dates in my diary.

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Post Re: BMW Garmisch
on: March 4, 2013, 18:59
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I'd really love to ride the passes we've mentioned and more than happy go the shortest sea crossing (over or under water?). I'd also be perfectly happy to bring it trip forward so BladeVFR can join us - seems a shame to be down there and not do them. Could we not have the BMW weekend as the final bit of the trip before heading home early monday, to get home Tuesday pm (home or Cadwell). Am sure we could put in a few extra miles home on the Monday as we'll have a day off riding the Sunday (although hang overs may effect things somewhat).

I do think we should be getting some accomodation booked in Garmisch sooner rather than later though if we want anywhere half decent.

Again just my thoughts, am happy to go with the flow on it. Just want whoever wants to go to have best opportunity to go. Think it'd be a fabulous trip.

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Post Re: BMW Garmisch
on: March 5, 2013, 16:18
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OK, after a long ride and a deep and meaningful discussion with my Observer, long distance travelling buddy, and best mate I have had a reality check and come to the blindingly obvious conclusion that I am trying to do too much. No matter which way I look at it, 900+ miles over 2 days just before doing Cadwell with Martin Hopp is just too risky. At best I risk spoiling something I have thoroughly enjoyed for numerous years and at worst I risk hurting myself through making a mistake due to fatigue.

It's unfortunate that the dates clash and hopefully I will be able to do this trip in the future.

However for now I am stating clearly that I will not be doing this trip this year. Hopefully you wont feel I have messed you about and hopefully by declaring my decision now it will give you the chance to sort things out between yourselves a lot easier and sooner.

I wish you all a safe and enjoyable trip.

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